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Dec 30, 2021



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Matt Fogle


Matt grew up as a wild middle child in rural IL and now lives in AZ with his wife Jen and 4 kids. For over ten years Matt has been a pastor in TX & IL & AZ. He’s a spiritual director, pastor, and retreat guide that works with multiple non-profits in the areas of leadership development and spiritual formation.


Show Notes:


  • Episode 81 | Adjust the Pace, Live with SELF-CONTROL & Hear God’s Voice (Tim Bohlke)
  • 3:57 - Matthew, 11, Jesus's invitation in Matthew, 11:28-30 “Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly.”
  • 6:00 - "I've been in a radical pursuit of trying to figure out how do I learn not only how do I learn these unforced rhythms, but how do I demonstrate in a way to others that makes them feel like, oh, I could enter into that rhythm of life too"
  • 6:49 - "learn to live or to live freely and lightly or, as most translations say. Take my yoke upon you, you know, because I am gentle and humble in heart. So that's where Eugene Peterson, when he translates the message that we're gentle, unforced, right, unforced rhythms"
  • book mentioned: Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers by Dane C. Ortlund
  • 9:00 - "What's God's heart gentle and lowly, humble... And to be a parent like that to enter into a relationship, whatever stage? Or I mean, even if you have a grown kids to constantly be in a posture of gentleness towards them. It doesn't have to go my way."
  • 9:36 - "Maybe God is the primary agent of my kids spiritual formation, not me. And so it's my job to ask good questions and listen and be patient along the journey"
  • 10:22 - speedboat versus sailboat
  • 11:48 - "I love that illustration when it comes to life in rhythm with Jesus is, are we developing a motor boat mentality? By the way, we're living, are we in control or we telling God what direction we want to go and how fast we want to go? You know, specifically with our marriages and with our kids, are we the ones telling God, I want you to do this in my kids life and I want you? I want him to look like this or her to look like that? Or are we hoisting up our sails every day and saying, God, however you want to blow into my sails, however you want to blow into their sails helped me to be a good, like, non anxious cooperative friend"
  • 13:48 - "in small ways and big ways, we can hoist up our sales daily and trust that the wind of God, the spirit of God, is going to blow into our sales and move us in the direction at the pace that he is setting, which is so un-American."
  • 17:16 - Parker Palmer Clearness Committee - short video:
  • 17:24 - "We gathered some friends. So remember there was a handful of friends that didn't have any emotional attachment to our decision. So that's key. Yeah, is find people that just are working for your good and for discernment"
  • 22:01 - "I'm a huge believer in that. Jesus meets everybody in the gospels where they're at and invites them to take the next step from where they're at..."
  • 25:39 - Lazy Dad Games
  • 26:06 - "We learned early on that when we prepare for the morning, the next day, we're teaching our kids how to set intentional things out for the next day. So the next morning is an anxious and hurried right."
  • 26:42 - Imaginative Prayer: A Yearlong Guide for Your Child's Spiritual Formation ( Jared Patrick Boyd )
  • 27:50 - Winnie the Poo -- "Sometimes the smallest things take up the most room in your heart"
  • S2 Episode 5 | Gospel Clarity on Parenting -- Life in Rhythm Podcast
  • 29:02 - "we put these heavy. Things on ourselves that God is not laying on us at all. And we put pressure where there doesn't need to be pressure, we put obligations on it. And honestly, it turns into a pride thing. Not a humble thing"
  • 30:22 - "Proverbs 4:23 that out of the overflow of the heart like, comes everything. So guard your heart above all else for from it flows springs of living order."
  • 30:55 - "if you want your kids to overflow with life, you've got to be connected to living water and you are parched. And it really is nobody else's responsibility. But yours to say no to a lot of good things..."
  • 31:30 - "it's going to take intentionality and it's going to take you guarding your heart above all else. For from it flows living water. And this is meant to be an overflow journey, not one of scarcity, but one where you are being filled up daily to be poured out like a reservoir to fill your kids up and your wife and you can do it. And it's an invitation piece. It's not... God's not going to ever make you do this. You've got to take him up on his invitation."


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