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May 27, 2021



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Matt Norman


Matt Norman is President & CEO of Norman & Associates. Through Norman & Associates, he helps people think and work together more effectively. Matt's mentorship has helped Fortune 100 corporations, non-profits, and entrepreneurs change the way they engage with their employees and clients.



MINNEAPOLIS, MN — August 28th, 2021

— DENVER, CO — September 18th, 2021

— PHILADELPHIA, PA — October 2nd, 2021

— NEW YORK, NY — October 16th, 2021

— PHOENIX, AZ — November 20th, 2021

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Show Notes:


  • 2:23 - New Text Message platform! Text the word "DAD" to 651-370-8618
  • 3:09 - Save the date for June 21, 2021 - dadAWESOME day
  • 5:48 - Creating a pathway for unlimited screen time and how that has contributed to more productive activities for the 13 yr old sons
  • 8:42 - How marriage counseling and being a part of a mens group helped pull out of the darkness of the season of infertility. "I'm part of a men's group that, you know, has been a very important part of my life. And it's been sitting around with those men in a non fixing, non rescuing, non minimizing environment."
  • 11:18 - Book: The Four Patterns of Healthy People 
  • 13:08 -  "I just I can't emphasize enough for myself and other people that I've journeyed with the value of finding authentic people that are willing to tell the truth and have grace and love in that."
  • 13:50 - Three questions: (1) Where are we often stuck? Where do I shrink back? (2) What's not working for me in some of my relationships? (3) Where am I getting triggered? Where are my hot buttons?
  • 17:41 - Pete Scazzero - The Emotionally Healthy Leader podcast 
  • 18:20 - "And even in our families where we hurt each other....Sometimes we slight each other or wound each other in in intentional ways because we're hurting ourselves and we want to, you know, make ourselves feel better by hurting someone else. But sometimes ...we're wounded. And so we're going to put on this armor and I think that armor... blocks us off from having...more intimacy with the Holy Spirit, more intimacy with our other important relationships, more effectiveness in whatever work may be, because as we work with others, we need to let others in and allow ourselves to be seen if we're going to have 'vulnerability-based trust' in the workplace."  (from Patrick Lencioni's Five Dysfunctions of a Team)
  • 20:22 - Favorite leadership book, A Failure of Nerve by Edwin Friedman  - "The most important characteristic of leadership is to be a non anxious presence."
  • 23:36 - Noticing that positivity can be tied to defensiveness
  • 25:17 - What he hopes his kids say at the end of his life?
  • 28:15 - How do we measure our day? Scoreboard and checklist or relationships and community?
  • 31:35 - "We do all these things to rationalize, justify and excuse ourselves. And yet freedom and joy and connection lies on the other side of growth."


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